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GUY WINS 3.500.000$ WITH ROULETTE! A dude bets 100000 dollars (hondred thousend) on one number and hits it. The 100000 dollars get multiplied by 35x! Winstar used to be my home casino. The way it was explained to me by the card-roulette croupier was that the constitution is concerned with literal dice and and roulette balls. Besides, the computer isn't actually using or throwing dice, it's just using a RNG.

After Oklahoma lawmakers approved traditional ball and dice games this year, casinos are now able to open those tables up to customers.

The law expands gaming rules to allow roulette and craps. Many casinos already had these kinds of games, but the outcomes were based on the use of playing cards rather than what someone might find in a Las Vegas casino.

Players, who are new to roulette, should note that, although the game offers a variety of betting opportunities, there are certain limitations to be taken into account as well. Once seated at the roulette table, a player will probably notice the plaque, standing on top. You'll see first 12, second, 12 third, 12 or the two ones on the vertical columns of the grid You get 12 numbers and if any of any one of those 12 numbers hits you'll get paid two to one For example, a $5 bet with win $10 For a novice player, the first time you're on a roulette table It may be easiest to bet on the outside the Red or black the.

In all, the state signed agreements with 13 tribes. The U.S. Department of Interior gave final approval to the compacts last week.

The Cherokee Nation celebrated Monday by holding a ceremonial roll of the dice at its Hard Rock Casino in Tulsa.

'We never really had a clear idea of what the implementation date was going to be until the week of,' said Mickey Ward, senior director of corporate gaming for the Cherokee Nation. 'So we put a lot of teasers out there to the public that this was coming, getting them excited.'

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Both tribes and lawmakers said that expanding the use of traditional games would keep more gambling money in Oklahoma, rather than having it leave the state for other casino havens like the Gulf Coast and Kansas City.

'The biggest thing is that it now allows us to offer the products that they're used to seeing in the traditional commercial gaming market. So dollars that we would normally see leave the state of Oklahoma, they now can stay within the state,' Ward said.

The Chickasaw Nation launched craps and roulette at its Winstar World Casino and Resort on Friday, and roulette at the Riverwind Casino on Saturday. Other tribes are cashing in on the new law, including the Choctaw Nation, which opened its 10 tables in three casinos last week.

Cherokee Nation Entertainment will have seven traditional roulette and five craps tables spread across three of its casinos.

The tribe built a new training site for about 50 employees to learn how to use the games and put them through dozens of hours of training. Casinos in Oklahoma have had games similar to roulette and craps before, but state law prevented them from having actual balls and dice used. Instead, players won or lost based on the use of playing cards that simulated the Vegas-style games.

The new law will allow electronic roulette and dice games to use outcomes based on a ball or dice.

'We feel this puts tribal gaming in Oklahoma on the level playing field now with all of your traditional commercial markets. Anything that a player would want to seek in their gaming experience we can now offer here in the state,' said Ward.

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Getting ready to shoot the dice on the craps table Monday.

Dale Denwalt

Dale Denwalt has closely followed state policy and politics since his first internship as an Oklahoma Capitol reporter in 2006. He graduated from Northeastern State University in his hometown of Tahlequah. Denwalt worked as a news reporter in... Read more ›

J1ohnny
Hello All; I went to the Winstar Casino in Oklahoma last night. The only craps table they have employs the card craps model. HOWEVER, after the cards are shuffled by the CSM, three cards are dealt onto the table. One of the cards will be turned over...say it is a 5 of diamonds, the dealer(stickman) slides the card over a small glass screen which then creates a 'dice throw' image onto the large monitor. The 'dice throw' has NO resemblance to the card that was turned over. The 5 of diamonds became a 'dice throw' of 4 and 2 for a point of 6. This happened several times, none of the turned over cards became their respective dice throws. It seems that whatever card is turned over is then fed over the glass screen...then a COMPUTER generates the dice throw based on the card? Is this correct? And if their state constitution disallows games based on the throw of dice, why would you allow computerized dice throws? Please assist. Thanks.
Actuarial
Winstar used to be my home casino. The way it was explained to me by the card-roulette croupier was that the constitution is concerned with literal dice and and roulette balls. Besides, the computer isn't actually using or throwing dice, it's just using a RNG.
J1ohnny
Thanks; Assuming RNG is random numerical generator, how would the consumer/gambler know whether it is programmed with a bias. My 20 minute observation noted 'no' hardways 4's, 6's, 8's or 10's.
mustangsally

Thanks; Assuming RNG is random numerical generator, how would the consumer/gambler know whether it is programmed with a bias.

no way to know for sure

Winstar Roulette Table Limits

i say
i thinks also the programmers do not even know, by the method used, how much of a bias their rng they use actually has
they feel it is good enough
they should just use 2 sets of 6 cards like in CA
Tablesimple and easy and fair
my opinion
Quote: J1ohnny

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My 20 minute observation noted 'no' hardways 4's, 6's, 8's or 10's.

well the chance the next roll is not a hardway = 32/36
so for 20 rolls without a hardway = abouts 1 in 11Winstar roulette tables
30 rolls = abouts 1 in 35
what do you think the chances are in 20 minutes to see no hardays are?
maybe 1 in 1 million?
so the rng could be rigged?
they could program the software
to produce a roll that would cause the most losses per roll
but i think most would stop playing after losing everything every time they play
if you owned the casino, say
how would you have this done, cant use real dice
to make it fair?
it matters
Sally
Actuarial

what do you think the chances are in 20 minutes to see no hardays are?
maybe 1 in 1 million?
so the rng could be rigged?
Sally


That means you'd have to roll 120 times in 20 minutes, or one roll every 10 seconds. Assuming 2 rolls a minute, odds of no hardways are about 1%
J1ohnny
Well, thanks to all who responded. I just did not have a good feel for this card crap game as compared to a standard dice game. Just continue to observe, maybe become a don't pass bettor.
Frogger
why don't they use one of the electronic craps games available in the market? There's at least 3 different ones.
dfwbird
They use a 36 card deck. Each card corresponds to a combination of dice. For example 5 of diamonds is a 4,2. 6 of clubs might be 2,4. So there is no RNG involved outside the shuffler. Last time I played there they handed out a sheet of paper showing what all the different cards/results were. A new deck is used for each roll.
tringlomane

why don't they use one of the electronic craps games available in the market? There's at least 3 different ones.


True craps is probably not approved by the state. The cards are a 'work around' to allow the game. I really don't know this for sure though.
PachucoBro
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UPDATE:
Figured I would add to this old thread since it came up in Google...
As of August 2018 Winstar now offers $1 Craps games using dice. Tables are available 24/7. There is a $1 ante which is required by state law.
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